Thursday, February 25, 2010

Liars

Whether stealing, lying or cheating its only view from the person perspective. Many people believe judging others basing us on our own interests but also on the ones that surrounds them. When we make moral judgment we won’t make them only by what is reasonable. Our reasoning bases from things we lived and from that we make moral judgments, we are not able to have another option but our feelings in the moment we make a moral choice. So when it comes to find out whether lying, cheating or stealing is ethical it depends on our moral views and our feelings. For examples stealing just to have money can be unethical for many but when someone steal to save a family member life we think twice because it’s for a good reason. Stealing for saving an innocent life would be kind of ethical because the ending would be the salvation of a human being. We all are different so we may have different points of view although we can differentiate from what is wrong and right. To kids many of their parents tell them that lying is bad and unethical but even they lie to their own children. Lying can be taken in two different ways. Lying could be or for a good or bad cause. For example a good cause can be when someone lies about a surprise party but a bad cause is when some adolescents lie to their parents about their grades. Lying depends on the consequence that will have and the reason on why the person it’s doing it for. Stealing, lying, or cheating is considered morally wrong but it’s open to other interpretation depending on the circumstances.
David Hume

6 comments:

  1. You are right on something, people decide what is ethical and what is not. People have always been egoist and will always be. It's true that lying, stealing, or cheating is against the law, but the law doesn't establishes what is good or wrong, you are the one that decides.

    Let's create a scenario where the following actions are most likely to happen:

    In school, two guys copied from each other on a test, having the same answers and scoring an A+. They have been called by the teacher (since the are not A+ students) one by one and driven outside. The student tells the teacher that his friend copied from this answers and that he didn't have nothing to do. Same process, same answer from the other student.

    This have actually been proven, its the same as the prison's dilema. Each person has to break the law in order to avoid the law. They had to cheat to obtain A+, and lie to avoid trouble. This doesn't mean it is unethical because they were trying to get the best to them, they were being egoist, the only form to be ethical in these kinds of situation.

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  2. We do make our own choices. Since we have the freedom to make our choices, we can decide whether to lie or not to lie. If we consider lying bad, because our values tell us so, then we must no lie. We were put in this world, and we were given the choice to do things or not to do them. We have to be responsible for every act we do because these are the consequences for having so much freedom. If we want to we lie, and if we don't want to because we think it's not right, then we don't.
    We have to be sure we want to lie, however, because this will have consequences that we ourselves created.
    There is no exact definition for good or bad, only the one that is given by society and its laws. Yes we have freedom, yes we can choose what to do, but we have to remember that we are part of this society and we have to respect its norms. According to society, lying is not acceptable. So we choose, follow our gut? follow the law?

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  4. We do make our own ethical choices. To lie something for your social good for example cheating to your husband its not good, but if a guy is married to a women and her women is pregnant and she ask him if she looks good, well you obviously need to tell her she looks awsome and beatiful even though she does not. But yes we have the freedom to lie if its ethical. But people need to now when to lie, because if you lie for something bad its unethica. Yes we have the right to defend our selves by lying but lying for defending a murder case would it be right?? NOT! because your lying for the freedom of someone who kills you know. But as ive said lying is neither good or bad but according to our human nature we are lyiers so we have to think when to lie perfectly!.

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  5. AUTONOMY OVER LIES...

    Kant: Lying is a ALWAYS morally wrong.
    Humans are born with Intrinsic worth, human dignity. Humans are rational agents capable of free will, setting goals, and guiding themselves acordint to reason.
    "To be Human,is to respect the power in oneself and others."
    Lying corrupts the ability to make free, rational choices. Each lie contradicts self moral worth.
    If I am Lying to someone about a choice they should make this leads people to decide other than they would had violating autonomy.Violating free will.

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  6. @FELIPE & ANA:
    IT IS TRUE THAT WE ARE BORN WITH FREE WILL TO MAKE RATIONAL CHOICES, BUT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT IN THIS SCENARIO FOR EXAMPLE:

    VOTER 1: IM VOTING FOR PEPE LOBO YOU SHOULD VOTE FOR HIM TOO

    VOTER 2: BUT I DONT THINK HE IS RIGHT HE HAS PROMISED DEATH PENALTY

    VOTER1: HE DID BEFORE BUT SAYS HE NOW REGRETS IT AND WONT EVEN COME NEAR TO MENTION IT (LIE)

    VOTER 2: OH OK THEN I WILL VOTE FOR HIM

    VOTER'S 2 FREE WILL WAS VIOLATED, HIS CHOICE WAS NOW CORRUPTED BY VOTER'S 1 LIE, THIS LIE VIOLATED VOTER'S 2 FREE WILL...HE NOW ACTED ACORDING TO VOTER'S 1 WILL...

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